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Long Mynd - Btm Landing Field - Further Update

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Long Mynd PG Bottom Landing *** CLOSED ***

Postby Brian Sanders » Sat May 25, 2019 4:53 pm

PG Bottom landing fields are closed until further notice due to the land being sold.
Top or slope landing only for paragliders.
HG Emergency overshoot agreements with a different landowner are still in place.
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Re: Long Mynd PG Bottom Landing *** CLOSED ***

Postby Graeme Baird » Fri Jun 21, 2019 7:19 pm

The club really needs to sort out the bottom landing fields problem. Today 4 hg's went down, with 2 landing in the wrong fields. Also several pg's went down. Can the committee get their finger out?!!
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Re: Long Mynd PG Bottom Landing *** CLOSED ***

Postby Stephen Taylor » Thu Jun 27, 2019 3:29 pm

Graeme Baird wrote:The club really needs to sort out the bottom landing fields problem. Today 4 hg's went down, with 2 landing in the wrong fields. Also several pg's went down. Can the committee get their finger out?!!


Looks like no one on the committee looks at this forum!
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Re: Long Mynd PG Bottom Landing *** CLOSED ***

Postby David Broughton » Fri Jun 28, 2019 6:28 am

I guess the land sales are still in progress & we will need to wait till the dust has settled before we can contact the new owners regarding (continued) access - probably the best result - or try to get an agreement with a different landowner if there is one with a suitable field.

Obviously "unprepared" landings may still occur but best to try to keep them to a minimum. Maybe a little patience is called for. Rome wasn't built in a day I believe (though it may look like it was)!

PS. With no change to the HG bottom landing options, hangies going down in the wrong fields is just poor piloting IMV!
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Re: Long Mynd PG Bottom Landing *** CLOSED ***

Postby David Broughton » Fri Aug 30, 2019 3:34 pm

OK, so the farmhouse & immediately surrounding fields (about 12 acres) are still up for sale with Savills for £695k. That does not appear to include the field we use as our PG bottom landing.

Has our landing field been sold / if so do we know who to / and has any contact been established with the new owner?

Just asking. :roll:
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Re: Long Mynd PG Bottom Landing *** CLOSED ***

Postby Brian Sanders » Sat Aug 31, 2019 6:13 pm

Please see the forum post four or five down from this one where the latest update is from the sites officer.
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Re: Long Mynd PG Bottom Landing *** CLOSED ***

Postby Nick Le Gras » Mon Sep 09, 2019 11:54 am

Comments from Graham such as ....

"The club really needs to sort out the bottom landing fields problem. Today 4 hg's went down, with 2 landing in the wrong fields. Also several pg.'s went down. Can the committee get their finger out?!!"


Are not at all helpful,
its simply reflects how little he understands the current situation.

So its the committees fault is it ?
that :

-That a number of pilots that Graham refers to , don't appear to have the flying skills to avoid landing in fields that are currently banned to us .

-and that the pilots clearly fail to appreciate how their actions are likely to jeopardise negotiations to come with the future landowner.

But for the complete avoidance of doubt

-There is a distinct possibility, we will never again get permission to land in the field we have historically landed in
-Members need to face in to that possibility
-yes it might be inconvenient
-But bottom landings are a nice to have rather than a absolute requirement.
-Such landings are made available by the grace and favour of the landowner
-And when we know who the land owner is we will open negotiations
-So until that time it would really be preferable, if our requests to avoid the fields were observed by all.

Many Thanks
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Long Mynd - Btm Landing Field - Further Update

Postby kevin williams » Sat Dec 07, 2019 11:54 am

A representative of the National Trust has recently contacted me advising our request to continue to use the bottom landing field is within their process. It was explained that there are various bodies within their organisation that need to approve our request and it will take time before all approvals will be received and confirmed back to us. Some of these bodies only meet a couple of times each year. It could therefore be as late as spring next year before we hear anything back.
I know this is not ideal but we are at the NT’s mercy. Their representative was quite apologetic and said “making a decision here is like turning an oil tanker ”
In the meantime we have been asked not to use the landing field unless in an emergency situation.
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Re: Long Mynd - Btm Landing Field - Further Update

Postby Howard Holt » Sun May 24, 2020 8:53 am

Hi,
Great job getting the bottom landing field back. Could someone please update the bottom landing status on this message and let us know if there are any additional stipulations before Monday and Tuesday this week if possible. Also do you know if will we still get the alternative field during hay making? Thanks in advance.
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Re: Long Mynd - Btm Landing Field - Further Update

Postby kevin williams » Mon Sep 14, 2020 2:53 pm

Just to clarify the current position regarding the bottom landing field. Officially we still do not have the bottom landing field signed off for permanent continuous by pilots from the authorizing officials of the National Trust.
So in principle we should not be using it.
However, the local NT manager of the Long Mynd has “on his own head “ as he put it, granted us temporary permission to use the field but only in emergency situations. He advised that the final decision will be forth coming when things are back to normal ( post COVID-19 ) but reiterated we are not a priority for the NT so our patience would be needed.
This is very frustrating for the club as discussions have been on going now for nearly a year but if I keep on chasing them up we will be perceived as a pain in the back side which we need to avoid.
We also have a new pictured sign of the site mounted on a stainless steel lectern to be installed on the field by the gates but can not authorize final printing until the status of the bottom landing field has been sorted and whether we can include it or not.
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