|Status:||Long Mynd is open to all pilots – PLEASE SEE SENSITIVITY NOTES BELOW|
|Latitude:||52.5211° (52° 31′ 15″ N)|
|Longitude:||-2.8786° (2° 52′ 42″ W)|
|Takes wind:||260 ° – 310 ° (WSW – WNW)|
|Maps:||1:50000 137 or Explorer 216|
|Blue arrows = take-off areas
Green triangles = landing fields
Thick red line = power lines (note: not all power lines are shown)
Red oblong = gates
P = parking
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2022 Black Knoll shooting dates – the advised dates have now passed until much later in the year, thank you to all pilots for avoiding Black Knoll on these dates!
There is now only 1 ‘PG only’ bottom landing field which is the field immediately below the PG launch area – this can be used for ‘unplanned’ bottom landings only, no deliberate top to bottoms!
Black Knoll at the south end of the ridge – usually from October to end January shooting may take place on and below the hill during which there must be no flying on Black Knoll – do not take off from nor fly to it. Shooting dates will be posted to the Black Knoll site guide and to the forum when known!
Do not overfly farms and horse paddocks/arena’s when low including the one just below launch! Plan your landing to avoid this and have a Plan B!
When low on the ridge, take care when members of the public are present including horse riders and dog walkers.
Please note: if you are not an LMSC member, there is a £3 per day site fee for flying the Mynd. Please put the money in the collection post by the gate, or pay online by clicking here. Site fees are used to maintain the site (which is not cheap) and when possible (or appropriate), for donations to air ambulance.
- This is an extremely popular site in a Westerly, and can get extremely busy. If you have not flown the site before, take a few minutes to read the all the information on these pages.
- Additional information will often be posted in the notice boards at the entrance.
- T/O altitude 1400 ft AMSL, hill is 700ft above the valley floor.
- No paramotors allowed.
- No dogs allowed.
- Please note that the only area where our two local schools teach ab-initio and early post CP pilots is Black Knoll at the south end of the Mynd. Please bear that in mind when flying the whole ridge and give those pilots plenty of space and don’t hog their launch area if you can see people preparing to launch. They have more than enough to concern themselves with than avoiding or being intimidated by other traffic.
- The site is very popular with both hang gliders & paragliders. Please note the field layout below for respective launch and landing details and be aware of the different behavior of the aircraft when mixing. For everyone’s safety, please read the following: DHV Flying Together Hang gliders and paragliders
All our web cams are available here: http://www.longmynd.org/?page_id=27
HG: Gordon Rigg, 30.05.15 Cambridge, 222.72 km. See http://www.uknxcl.co.uk/flight_info/10023. The previous record was Rich Lovelace, 21.08.04, who held it for 11 years. 221.12 km – so only just beaten by Gordon. See http://www.uknxcl.co.uk/flight_info/5961. Until we were informed of these flights, we had said that the record was held by Darren Brown, 202.85 km, on 15.08.17, to near St Neots.
PG: Kai Coleman, 25.06.2004. To Eltisley. 201.6 km.
From Church Stretton take the Burway and follow signs for the Midland Gliding Club. Park diagonally by the fence. Do not obstruct the gateway. Go through the gate to the rigging area. DO NOT CLIMB OVER THE FENCE, not least because then you miss any notices posted by the gate (as well as giving the impression you are trying to avoid paying the day fee, if you are a visitor).
On busy days this is a significant issue, with complaints about the inability for any rescue vehicles to get past. Please makes sure that you park diagonally in such a way that the car does not stick out into the main tarmac roadway at all. Try to park in such a way as to allow as many vehicles to squeeze in as possible. If you park along the gliding club fence, make sure that you are completely off the tarmac road.
LAUNCHES AND LANDING AREAS
Spectators are NOT allowed on the field. However, friends and family are allowed, but are the responsibility of the pilot who must brief them accordingly, particularly with respect to keeping the landing areas clear. Ordinary tourists, with no links to the club, should be asked politely to leave the field. It is the responsibility of all pilots to police this, not just the committee!
Take-offs and top landing
Take-off is straightforward but keep a very careful watch for soaring traffic which can be heavy. PG pilots should keep to the right (north) of the white line (marked with painted slabs) to take off and when below the ridge to avoid conflict with HG overshoots. PGs should not slope land in the HG launch area. If they are forced to, they should promptly move to the PG area. A launching hang glider may not see a PG further down the slope.
Top landing is good except for wind gradient which can occur in the north east corner. This should not be a problem if you are aware of it and approach with sufficient air speed. In strong winds, do not go back beyond the boundary fence. Do not fly behind the road when top landing. This is especially important for hang gliders who believe that they can penetrate back into wind once behind the road; this may not be the case. The road runs diagonally behind our launch field, and it is natural to assume that approaching into wind is as easy from by the entrance gate as the far corner, but this is not always true. Landing on the road, cars or fence is really not a good idea, and we don’t want to have experienced pilots zooming in low over the cars and giving the false impression to less experienced pilots that this is anything except a very highly skilled and potentially risky manoeuvre.
Clear the landing area immediately – this applies to both paragliders and hang gliders
We have laid down more flagstones at the Mynd, running roughly N-S, and joining on to the current ones which go to the front of the Mynd. So the area between this new line of stones and the fence is the area which must be cleared immediately after landing, and not used to de-rig, pack away, or for picnics (this is the area marked as ‘HG and PG landing area’ on the diagram above). We simply want to keep an area clear permanently for landings – this is particularly useful for hang gliders, who need more space to land in than PGs, and who are mostly not as precise at spot landing. But it’s also useful for PGs, especially newer pilots, who might not yet be able to land on the spot.
We are, of course, NOT saying this is the only area you can land. PGs in particular have more landing options, including the front of the hill, and slope landing (not a practical option for HGs). We are simply saying that this designated area should always be kept clear for gliders landing.
In terms of packing away PGs, do it in front of the new line of stones – there should be plenty of room – or carry the PG over near the gate, and pack away there, next to the HG rigging area, making sure you aren’t in the way of rigged hang gliders or the tie downs that they use.
Slope landing is possible below the launch field however PG’s should look out for launching hang gliders and never kite their wing back up immediately below the hang glider launch area. Try not to slope land elsewhere on the Mynd where possible and be especially cautious of the model aircraft bowl and the power lines running up to the gliding club.
Pilots new to the site MUST TAKE LOCAL ADVICE each time on bottom landing before flying since this is a VERY SENSITIVE ISSUE and field availability changes with the seasons and usage, etc. See notes on horses below.
When alternative fields are in use, notice will be posted at the gate and on the web site.
HANG GLIDERS – there is a field (with a very slight slope), the panhandle field, over the road and slightly right of T/O, with an overshoot field beyond and slightly left. Do not overfly the horses on the approach to this. There is also a field for emergency use only to the left of launch. See the diagram at the top for details of this.
PARAGLIDERS – The Long Mynd bottom landing field PG 1 is now under ownership of the National Trust. This is now the only paraglider specific landing field. This is the field immediately below the PG launch area with the single large tree in its centre. Hang gliders should not use PG 1!
- The field must only be used for Unplanned landings.
Pilots are requested to avoid planned top to bottom flights and to side land if unable to top land.
- The field has been out of bounds to us during the months of May, June & July during the first year. Subject to our using the field minimally and considerately, the new agreement may allow ‘unplanned’ bottom landings all year round. This will be confirmed in due course.
The NT purchased the field specifically to create a meadow to grow different varieties of flora to harvest & export the seedlings to other baron land they own, and also to attract varying species of fauna. The meadow will be cut annually as part of its management but especially when the meadow is growing/grown, it is vital that we do not damage it when landing and walking through the field.
- Any agreement will be reviewed on an annual basis subject to our compliance of these conditions. However if we fail to abide by the rules it can be cancelled immediately leaving us with no PG bottom landing, so please respect these rules!
The field is now included on the NT warden’s patrol schedule and they are likely to be active in the area on flying days to monitor our usage of the btm field and to observe the extent of our impact to the flora & fauna.
- Try to land in the topmost part of the field, immediately pick up your wing causing as little damage to any meadow as possible and exit the field walking along a boundary fence and through the top (only) gate.
Do not linger in the field and never pack up your wing in the field – immediately in front of the gate is OK. The less we are seen, with no meadow damage and few footprints, the less restrictive any future agreement is likely to be.
Always close the gate behind you – if its open, close it anyway.
Hang glider overshoots
The comments below are from a Hang Glider pilot and should give an idea as to why this is so important.
“My main concern is for overshooting HG pilots. It has been increasingly the case that PG pilots who slope land in front of the HG take off and overshoot area, either wait where they land and take off again from there or inflate their canopy and walk it back to the PG take off area. When the conditions are marginal (hence the slope landing), it is much more likely that a HG pilot will overshoot his top landing and a canopy that pops up in front of him leaves him no where to go -> fatal accident (it has happened elsewhere). These PG pilots have no view of the top of the field, so have no idea if a hang glider is about to come over when they inflate. Other issues I have are that PG pilots have the habit of turning left after take off and staying in front of the HG take off area (and overshoot area), rather than simply transiting through. This either means that the HG pilot does not aviate at all, or takes off anyway and causes the PG pilot to take sudden avoiding action. Talking to many low time HG pilots, I know that they frequently don’t fly when it is like this for fear of collision on take off or if they overshoot their top landing. As an experienced pilot, I am happy to take my chance but still dislike the potential conflict. The ridge is 4 miles long after all, why not use it? Finally, the packing up of PG wings in the middle of the LZ creates a much bigger obstacle for a HG pilot landing than a PG. This is true, not only the less experienced, but for any pilot on approach.”
HOW TO FLY THE WHOLE RIDGE
You can download a guide (in Word) on how to soar the entire ridge, rather than just staying in front of launch: Ridge Soaring the Long Mynd
Please be aware that the far southern end of the Long Mynd ridge known as the Black Knoll is regularly used by local flying schools to train their students.
Pilots where possible should try to avoid flying close to students or low over school takeoffs at the Black Knoll end and provide a very wide berth at all times to students displaying a trailing red streamer.
The incidence of pilots flying acro moves in front of take off has caused a number of issues to many pilots. Specifically it often causes less experienced pilots to stand on take off and not launch at all. They are unaware of the capabilities of the acro pilots, the space they need, their own abilities to avoid or be avoided, so lose good airtime and get frustrated. If you want to do acro, please go along the ridge to the north (but not within the Modelers’ Bowl – see below), or well in front of the ridge in the valley.
DOGS are not allowed on the field.
This area is used by low flying military aircraft on weekdays – see notes.
Birmingham CTA at 30 miles, Halfpenny Green at 24m, RAF Cosford at 23 miles.
MIDLAND GLIDING CLUB
These notes and diagrams are intended to give pilots an appreciation of the circuits used by the MGC which affect us.
If you are forced to slope land in front of the MGC, walk either north or south away from their field. Do not take off from there as you will not be visible to a glider on take off or on weak-link break practise.
LAUNCH TO THE SOUTH
In this case, the main winch is towards the south end of the ridge. This is the winch which drags the glider up. The glider will be at the northern end of the MGC field. The winch there is the retrieve winch, which pulls the cable back after the glider has been towed up and the cable released. Release heights vary but typically are around 1100′ at the field. It can be significantly higher than this in certain conditions. It is most important that pilots keep a watchful eye on activity in the launch area. The AMBER FLASHING LAMP will operate during each launch. A glider ready to launch will have its wings held level by a tip while no-one will be standing near the cockpit.
Cable breaks often occur, either real breaks, or simulated ones. Normally, the pilots would land straight ahead, or turn left off the launch, away from the front of the ridge, and land back on their field. However, if they are confident the ridge is working, they may turn straight on to the ridge, at low height.
Do NOT thermal back over the MGC field at less than 1500′. This will interfere with their launches, at best; and at worst, could result in an accident. If you do find yourself drifting back, clear the area as fast as possible.
LAUNCH TO THE NORTH
The positions of the main and retrieve winch are reversed. Otherwise, as above.
LAUNCH TO THE WEST
Occasionally, in a strong westerly, they will do what is known as a Short West launch, i.e. directly on to the ridge. If conditions are strong enough for this, then PGs will not be flying, but HGs could be. At present, this launch goes close to the MGC windsock, by the club house, with gliders releasing at about 250′. If you see them doing a launch in this direction, be extra observant when flying past the MGC.
The MGC no longer has its own tug. However, it does still have a motor glider, and also occasionally a tug does visit the MGC. So please note that aerotow launches are particularly vulnerable to inconsiderate actions on our part, especially in a westerly launch. They cross the edge of the hill typically below 100ft and are obviously unable to take evasive action at this critical moment. In addition, the tug pilot has poor visibility down and forward. Keep a special note of towing activity and in particular DO NOT CROSS IN FRONT OF THE WINDSOCK BELOW RIDGE HEIGHT when towing is active. If you hit strong lift you could rise up in front of a tug pilot.
The most common landing circuit is shown in the diagram here. Typically, the sailplane will be at 800′ QFE at Wentnor, and do a circuit in the indicated direction. To a PG or HG, it will seem as if the sail plane is flying directly towards them, probably doing 60 knots or so airspeed – so more in ground speed. This is not the only circuit, but is the typical one on days when we will be flying. The MGC enforces a circuit direction for its pilots, so on any given day, all sailplanes should be following roughly the same circuit direction, though the actual path will vary with height.
Aero modellers have an agreement to use the northern bowl, by the clump of trees on the ridge. Whilst they have a particular duty to avoid conflict in flight, it is unwise to fly in this area when models are flying. It is easier to spot operators on the ground than models in the air.
A riding school operates at the farm below take off. The stables are tucked-in under take-off and a new, light coloured, schooling area is located about 100m west of the house. We should take great care not to fly low over any horses, especially while being ridden, or land in a field with horses. The few permanently resident horses generally get used to us but several will typically be temporary visitors receiving special training so will be unused to flying activities.
What are they for?
Use it when we need to clear the air and ground quickly, e.g. if an air ambulance is called. Two are located in the Midland Gliding Club office and are also available for use by their members.
What to do if you hear it?
Either immediately choose a safe landing at the top of the hill, or fly away from the LMSC launch and stay far away (e.g. Black Knoll area) until it is 100% clear that it is safe for you to return. If in doubt, land a long way out and walk back!